Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015

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Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 15:01:27 GMT

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Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015

Event Caches will now be a minimum of 30 minutes.
Cache In Trash Out Events (CITO) will now be a minimum of 1 hour.
Mega-Events will now be a minimum of 4 hours.

Future CacheWalker Splashmob attendees are going to get very chilly feet!!

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walktall Founder Member Posts: 1,653	Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 15:11:10 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by walktall on Feb 17, 2015 15:11:10 GMT Will Flash Mobs have to be 30 minutes! That's daft , the whole point is it's a sudden gathering and no sooner gathered, then people leave. It's all in the name 'Flash'
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Gackt Administrator Admin "Où-suis je ? What the devil does that mean?" Posts: 2,253	Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 15:13:16 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Gackt on Feb 17, 2015 15:13:16 GMT My thoughts exactly. Maybe they need to be petitioned to bring the time down, or give a new icon for Flashes?
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tarmacjohn Cachaholic Forum Hound Posts: 547	Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 17:14:15 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by tarmacjohn on Feb 17, 2015 17:14:15 GMT I believe the reasoning is that 'Events' are supposed to be a social gathering. GS have decided that people can't be sociable in 15 minutes

Griff Grof Founder Member cachewalker.co.uk Posts: 702	Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 17:24:55 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Griff Grof on Feb 17, 2015 17:24:55 GMT Whatever next I think TJ has found the reason!
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walktall Founder Member Posts: 1,653	Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 18:52:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by walktall on Feb 17, 2015 18:52:05 GMT The last ever HQ Block Party is in August
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Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 20:52:07 GMT

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Feb 17, 2015 15:11:10 GMT walktall said:

Will Flash Mobs have to be 30 minutes!

That's daft

, the whole point is it's a sudden gathering and no sooner gathered, then people leave. It's all in the name 'Flash'

And GS bought in the 'rule' against Event Stacking, so you couldn't have a Flash Mob, followed by an Event afterwards in a near by pub/restaurant/park/McD's...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_mob

A flash mob (or flashmob)[1] is a group of people who assemble suddenly in a public place, perform an unusual and seemingly pointless act for a brief time, before quickly dispersing. They are often used for the purposes of entertainment, satire or artistic expression...

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Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 17, 2015 23:47:27 GMT

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Feb 17, 2015 20:52:07 GMT Bear and Ragged said:

And GS bought in the 'rule' against Event Stacking, so you couldn't have a Flash Mob, followed by an Event afterwards in a near by pub/restaurant/park/McD's...

Never felt the need to do that. We just go to the pub afterwards for a drink

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Griff Grof Founder Member cachewalker.co.uk Posts: 702	Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 18, 2015 10:02:31 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Griff Grof on Feb 18, 2015 10:02:31 GMT Feb 17, 2015 18:52:05 GMT walktall said: The last ever HQ Block Party is in August I wonder why?
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geocachergordon New Active Member Posts: 1	Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 18, 2015 18:53:25 GMT Griff Grof likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by geocachergordon on Feb 18, 2015 18:53:25 GMT Well all I can do is add my feelings - Flash means, (well) Flash! 30 minutes is stupid. Okay - folk often "linger" but the joy of a Flash Mob is it's - quick fun!!

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Feb 18, 2015 18:53:25 GMT geocachergordon said:

Well all I can do is add my feelings - Flash means, (well) Flash! 30 minutes is stupid.
Okay - folk often "linger" but the joy of a Flash Mob is it's - quick fun!!

Yes!

My only guess is that some sort of new event cache type is coming? Flash mobs are now too common to basically ban.

Perhaps the new type will launch ahead of the WWFM?

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Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 18, 2015 20:33:08 GMT

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Post by Gackt on Feb 18, 2015 20:33:08 GMT

Welcome to the forum geocachergordon

A new geocache icon just for flash mob events, with a 15 minutes minimum time stamp would sort this out, maybe? But I can't see Groundspeak launching that, for they would of done so years ago if they were going to.

Flash mob cache page writing will just need a little more work. E.g... "Flash mob at such and such a place from 10am to 10:15am. At 10:15 we will all disappear into the nearby pub for a chat for 15mins." ..or something.

The ridiculousness of the situation is that anyone who attends only needs to for a few seconds anyway to say they have attended, they don't need to stay for the duration however long their guidelines say, because you can't make everyone stay for the whole thing. And as many of you know...

Quote below from: www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx

Event Cache Logging Guidelines

Any Event Cache (including Mega, Giga and CITO Events) can be logged online if the geocacher has attended the event. Event Cache owners can request that cachers sign a logbook, but this is optional and cannot be a requirement for logging an Event Cache.

No events now need to have a log book. So unless you take a video of your whole event and everyone is wearing name badges, almost anyone can say they have been to an event even if they haven't and log it. They don't even need to attend that flash mob for a second. All very silly.

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Edit: Griff Grof got a post in whilst I was waffling

Let's hope for new cache type then.. but I feel that we won't. Let's hope I am wrong.

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Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015 Feb 18, 2015 20:39:35 GMT

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Post by walktall on Feb 18, 2015 20:39:35 GMT

This is what is being said at WWFM HQ

As many of you know, Geocaching.com has made changes to their event guidelines (Feb 2015) so that now all events must last a minimum of 30 minutes.

Here is what we suggest for the WWFM events:

You can meet early at a certain location, and make plans together for the "Flash Mob" portion of the event at a nearby location, and then meet again at the first location after the flash mob is over.

Another idea is to start the event with the "Flash Mob", and then have everyone meet at a second location to continue socializing. The event host must be present for 30 minutes, but you can also have a longer event.

The fun of the "Flash Mob" part is to do something unique, different, entertaining, unusual, etc. so that people (muggles) nearby are surprised or amused! It works best to keep this portion short.

And these were the rules:

If you are interested in hosting a WWFM event in your area, check out these resources, tips and tools!

Basic Requirements:

Hold your event on the official, announced day, at the official time (for an exception, please contact Sonny and Sandy at podcacher [at] gmail [dot] com)
~~The event should last only 15 minutes (but you can always gather informally afterwards for geocaching!)~~
UPDATE: Due to changes in Geocaching.com event guidelines (Feb 2015), all events must last a minimum of 30 minutes. You have several options. You can meet early at a certain location, and make plans together for the "Flash Mob" portion of the event at a nearby location, and then meet again at the first location after the flash mob is over. Another idea is to start the event with the "Flash Mob", and then have everyone meet at a second location to continue socializing. The event host must be present for 30 minutes, but you can also have a longer event. The fun of the "Flash Mob" part is to do something unique, different, entertaining, unusual, etc. so that people (muggles) around are surprised or amused! It works best to keep this portion short.
Take a group picture
Collect the number of people attended for statistical purposes
Be creative and Have fun!

Last Edit: Feb 18, 2015 20:50:30 GMT by walktall

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Changes to Event and CITO Guidelines - February 2015

Post by Gackt on Feb 17, 2015 15:01:27 GMT

Post by walktall on Feb 17, 2015 15:11:10 GMT

Post by Gackt on Feb 17, 2015 15:13:16 GMT

Post by tarmacjohn on Feb 17, 2015 17:14:15 GMT

Post by Griff Grof on Feb 17, 2015 17:24:55 GMT

Post by walktall on Feb 17, 2015 18:52:05 GMT

Post by Bear and Ragged on Feb 17, 2015 20:52:07 GMT

Post by walktall on Feb 17, 2015 23:47:27 GMT

Post by Griff Grof on Feb 18, 2015 10:02:31 GMT

Post by geocachergordon on Feb 18, 2015 18:53:25 GMT

Post by Griff Grof on Feb 18, 2015 20:30:19 GMT

Post by Gackt on Feb 18, 2015 20:33:08 GMT

Post by walktall on Feb 18, 2015 20:39:35 GMT

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