I hope this is in the right place, just I'm curious to know if anyone here has done the Kemble to Cricklade part of the Thames Path Trail.
I have a friend coming down in March, who will be walking the route with me at the end of month, to find a good starting place for a challenge we will be doing in May. Luckily he is also a Cacher too.
We plan to canoe the length of the Thames, with the river starting at the Thames Head, it isn't easy to launch, and we don't want to take the boat over the whole route carrying it and our kit, so finding the right launching site that allows us and the boat to travel as close as, as possible, to the Thames Head.
The total Thames River is 215 miles, and I remember reading there are 137 caches along the whole route (41 along this stretch and we do plan to grab all the caches), with 51 locks to look forward to, on our 7 day trip.
So does anyone here have any tips, stories or advice please to help us plan the trip and make it as a good caching adventure as well as ideas where to achieve the best launch.
That sounds like an awesome adventure. I have thought about walking the length of the Thames previously, and had started to make plans of getting the train to London then walking back to the Thames Head as it is so close to home. Just need to put my thinking into action.
I have walked the section of Kemble to Cricklade, but not for some time. Although there is occasionally a lot of water at the Thames Head, you wouldn't be able to launch there unless your canoe is miniature. The first bridge over the Thames is more a bricked culvert of about waist height under the Tetbury road. The south side of the road as you comeback into the open you enter into knee deep mud in wet weather. There is double lots of barbed wire to stop silly people like me from going under there too.
I would go for a launch place of just north of the A429 in Kemble. Easy to get into the water there, no steep banks.
I think most of the Thames Path caches were placed very close to the actual river along the route. Though most of them you'll need to get out of the canoe to find. You might get away with not getting out for the "Thames Path – Kemble" cache.
I remember encountering nesting swans around the area of the two caches to the south east of Ewen on two occasions. They didn't like me being near, I don't know what they would be like with someone on the water.
Also around the same area I remember the landowner having strict rules about no cycles on the footpath. I don't know if there are any rules / laws about taking floating crafts on the river, I really have no idea, but it might be worth checking on if you haven't done already.
Sounds great fun. My arms are aching just thinking about it
Post by pigdogboyandgirls on Feb 27, 2013 22:50:42 GMT
I have canoed from Lechlade to Castle Eaton and back a few times. That stretch can be hard going even in a canoe, lots of fallen trees and branches to get around. As for the caches, some of them are quite away from the river, in fact some of them you can't even see the river from where the path actually is!
Gackt, once we have the 'boat' ready we will be registering it with the Thames Water Agency so have all the offical paperwork to take it along the whole route. As long as we don't damage anything, shouldn't be a problem.
Once my folks are gone for a month, I get to move the rowing machine into the living room to watch tv and train!
PDBG, yeah I've heard a few things about it,I've read a few reports and stories from canoeing clubs and people, I know the caches will be away from the river on some bits and as me and my mate are total novices to it, its going to be one crazy journey, why we have given a week to do it.
I'm sure you know a lot of this already, but as it seems as though you're unfamiliar with the Thames thought I'd give you a few pointers. I'm a canoeist (prior to getting a 'proper job') and know the upper Thames extremely well... it's surprisingly easy but there are a few things to consider first...
You need to register your boat either with the Environment Agency or the BCU - not Thames Water. If you register with the BCU it's about £30 and it entitles you to any navigable waterway (including canals) in the UK. The EA licence will cover you just for that craft on the Thames.... and yes, the lock keepers will ask to see it at EVERY lock they have manned!
You can't paddle north of Cricklade - it's just not possible/allowed. In May you shouldn't really paddle north of Lechlade - this is due to low water levels, growth of rushes (it isn't cleared as it's not a navigation channel) and birds/fish reproduction - swans nesting will attack you, lower down it's not so much of an issue. The navigable section starts at Lechlade where the Coln joins it - just north of St. John's lock.. Access is a major issue on rivers, paddlers have fought long and hard for access agreements and not sticking to the 'norm' can get you into a lot of trouble - especially from anglers/land owners. At Hannington there is acces over private land and at Castle Eaton access is again over private land from the pub. You will need their permission.
Most the access is via slipways which are located at pubs. They are private and you do need permission to launch there - I recommend making phonecalls in advance as they can get mighty angry if you roll up their slipway and then don't purchase a set amount of things from the pub/pay for it.
I have a document somewhere telling me all the campsites (which include some locks by prior arrangement) but it's on my other computer. I'll see if I can find it.
Lastly the lock keepers will usually expect you to portage as they will expect you to not go through the lock, and you should have the required safety kit (bouyancy aid etc). The thames has a lot of boat traffic so they have right of way - you must get out of their way in good time otherwise they could flatten you (I've been almost mown down by a drunken stag party that didn't know how to slow the canal boat down!).
Lastly - you can't get out of the boat unless you're at a lock/slipway/very fortunate. The banks are steep, high and heavily vegetated. They are prone to collapsing and can be full of nasty hazards (fishing line, lots of barbed wire, broken bottles). Climbing into one is extremely dangerous. In May the Himalayan Balsam will be starting its annual invasion and will dominate the banks - which are often 2-3m behind the plants. You can't simply hop in and out of boats - some sections have no get out for 5-6 miles. That's a long walk to the cache and back.
If you contact the EA for a boat licence - you may want to enquire about a permit to catch crayfish. The signal one (evil) is free to fish on the Thames but you need a ticket to do so apparently. Just make sure you don't take the native one. You can normally catch 6-7 in 20 mins with the right kit, Free food!
Oh, and there are several HUGE sections where the Thames Path isn't actually near the Thames...
Thanks Dododreams for that, did know some of that information, didn't know some of it either. Have taken notes and will point it to longbowman117.
Was aware about registering, just named the wrong agency.. whoops! Yep, aware that the EA is only on the Thames, and I doubt we can register for BCU as the boat itself, if one built from recycled 2 Litre Plastic Bottles, 240+ of them bonded together and with an outer wrapping to prevent any bottles getting lose and floating away and causing pollution. I don't think the BCU would want to try and have that on the books, the EA on the other hand shouldn't be a problem, and we are doing this for charity.
We have access to all the safety items, vests and bags etc. We are also going to get some training before we do the trip, just to have some better ideas.
We are doing it over enough days that we won't be pushing too much, aimed to stop off at any of the pubs along route.
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On the 30th March, Longbowman117 and myself tackled the path from the Thames Head walking to Cricklade, and yes along the path not the river, which can be a problem for our boating exercise, and we took a lot of notes on bridges and access to a lot of places, only grabbed 32 out of the 38 Thames Path for the 12 mile walk. The last leg was out of action due to the Thames had burst it's banks and changed direction into the TS Canal closer to Cricklade, but that shouldn't be a problem.
We will be back to claim the 6 caches we didn't get, and will be continuing on the adventure.
Post by Yorkshire Yellow on Apr 8, 2013 14:26:19 GMT
It was really nice weather yesterday, so the family and I went to the Water Park for a walk and picnic. We parked at Neigh Bridge and walked the path upstream for a couple of miles, taking in a few caches along the route. It was gentle enough walking for me with the 2yo in the back pack and there were regular enough caches to keep the 5 yo's interest.
It was really nice weather yesterday, so the family and I went to the Water Park for a walk and picnic. We parked at Neigh Bridge and walked the path upstream for a couple of miles, taking in a few caches along the route. It was gentle enough walking for me with the 2yo in the back pack and there were regular enough caches to keep the 5 yo's interest.
I got an email update from the cache you DNF. You got luckier than me if you found camo tape in the hole. It's a great series, and I can't wait to go back and claim the last few we didn't get.
I haven't been able to go out caching since then, but I hope to grab in better weather. Did you suffer much with the mud?
It was really nice weather yesterday, so the family and I went to the Water Park for a walk and picnic. We parked at Neigh Bridge and walked the path upstream for a couple of miles, taking in a few caches along the route. It was gentle enough walking for me with the 2yo in the back pack and there were regular enough caches to keep the 5 yo's interest.
I got an email update from the cache you DNF. You got luckier than me if you found camo tape in the hole. It's a great series, and I can't wait to go back and claim the last few we didn't get.
I haven't been able to go out caching since then, but I hope to grab in better weather. Did you suffer much with the mud?
There was little or no mud on the short section we walked - the only bit we came across was at GZ for Thames Path - Manor House.
We didn't find anything at the obvious hiding place for Thames Path - Somerford Keynes. To be honest I don't know when we'll be next out to grab that one, as the family won't want to repeat the walk for a while, but you never know.
I've got little maps of caches I have got and yet to get and routes, and I know the 7 I want to get will be split into 3 different grabs.
I can understand the difficulty in getting back to caches, have you grabbed the T&S Canal series coming down from Siddington, past South Cerney and Cerney Wick to Cricklade?
I'm going to continue searching along the canal tomorrow. There are quite a few sheep just past the Monkey Business cache area, towards Siddy direction (if you're in Cerney) and my dog's a bit too enthusiastic about sheep, so what with lambing season and everything I might go for Cerney Wick rather than Siddington...
What dog you got Barrefly? Not trying to upset but I come from a Sheep/Agricultural background and the requested way of dogs and sheep is to keep dogs on leads at all times through fields with sheep, and under control due to a natural instinct of them going for sheep. Sadly I've seen it and farmers actually have a right to shoot dogs if they are found attacking the sheep.
No worries, I know exactly where you're coming from!
Working cocker. It's an odd arrangement, we don't own her but we have her at our house during the day and walk her because her owners are out from early until late. I also dogsit another (but waaay lazier) cocker (not working type!)...what was my point?...oh yeah so basically she's lovely but scatty and not that well trained, so anytime I spot sheep I put her on the lead - being aware of farmer's rights having grown up on a farm too - its not in her breed to attack, but she will chase anything that moves, which is potentially just as damaging to a pregnant ewe. I can't wait to see her reaction to the alpacas when they're finally moved in!!